Канада как она есть.
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Подобных призывов не было.
Власть шельмует и оговаривает "неудобные" партии.
Такое возможно только в Канаде.
Последнее редактирование:
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получить бы из нескольких источников ,было или не было,
сомневаюсь что в Канаде можно возвести напраслину.
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И напрасно. Напраслину можно возвести всюду. Вспомните такой термин "маккартизм". Или такой House Un-American Activities Committee.
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У тебя тоже Канада - рай без луж и Лисицу за её точку зрения не сжирали?
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нет.но нужна правда а не фантазии,У тебя тоже Канада - рай без луж и Лисицу за её точку зрения не сжирали?
на фантазиях далеко не уедешь,
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нет.но нужна правда а не фантазии,У тебя тоже Канада - рай без луж и Лисицу за её точку зрения не сжирали?
на фантазиях далеко не уедешь,
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Ну, енто как посмотреть... Вон на Украине, уже далеко уехали. Некоторые аж в саму "столицу Сибири".
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Если сомневаешься что в "Канаде можно возвести напраслину" то перечитай в очередной раз обвинения России в агрессии на Украине, и за сбитый малазийский Боинг...
Мигом все сомнения пропадут.
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А есть разница?
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Есть, конечно. В Канаде много властей, которые друг другу не подчиняются. Вот я и спрашиваю, какую конкретно власть вы имеете в виду? Хотя по ващшему вопросу итак понятно, что вы себе такого представить не можете про наличие параллельных властей, а потому и сморозили чушь.
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Я так понял, было много букв? Исправляю. Статья занимательная на тему о том, что есть люди Канады:
Вот так вот:
Kahnawake mixed couple subject of 'marry out, stay out' protest
Mohawk man, non-native wife say they are afraid for their family's safety
By Tanya Birkbeck, CBC News Posted: May 02, 2015 4:48 PM ET Last Updated: May 02, 2015 4:56 PM ET
People in Kahnawake, Que., protested in front of the home where a Mohawk man and his non-native wife live. Mixed couples are prohibited by the territory's law from living on Mohawk land. (CBC)
Dozens of protesters spent Saturday demonstrating in front of a house in Kahnawake, Que., where a Mohawk man lives with his non-native wife.
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Kahnawake mixed couple subject of 'marry out, stay out' protest
Mohawk man, non-native wife say they are afraid for their family's safety
By Tanya Birkbeck, CBC News Posted: May 02, 2015 4:48 PM ET Last Updated: May 02, 2015 4:56 PM ET
People in Kahnawake, Que., protested in front of the home where a Mohawk man and his non-native wife live. Mixed couples are prohibited by the territory's law from living on Mohawk land. (CBC)
Dozens of protesters spent Saturday demonstrating in front of a house in Kahnawake, Que., where a Mohawk man lives with his non-native wife.
Marvin and Terry McComber woke up Saturday morning to spray-painted graffiti on the front of their two-storey yellow house, and on their daughter's car.
Terry McComber told CBC News she feels intimidated by the protesters, and fears for the safety of her children.
The protesters say the couple is breaking a law that has been on the books in Kahnawake since 1981. It states that any Mohawk resident who marries or lives with a non-native must move away from Kahnawake.
Nineteen-year-old resident Keisha Goodleaf is among the protesters outside the McComber home.
"Well I am here because I was raised [knowing that] you marry out, you get out. We all knew that. Everyone in town grew up knowing that," Goodleaf says.
She says she is worried about losing native land, language and culture.
Lawsuit pending
Sandy and Barry Stacey moved away from Kahnwake because of its citizenship rules. They are party to the lawsuit before the courts. (CBC)
Seven mixed-race couples, including the McCombers, are taking the band counsel to court over the law, in a case that is not expected to be settled until 2017.
Barry and Sandy Stacey, who moved from Kahnawake when they married, are participating in the lawsuit. They attended the protest in defence of the McCombers and others in their situation.
"It's not right, I feel, because we're all human beings. I married my wife not because of her colour or her race, but because she's a lovely person. She loves me for who I am and I love her for who she is," Barry Stacey says.
Band council spokesman Joe Delaronde says he does not condone the vandalism, but the protesters have a right to demand the law be respected.
"They are asking that people respect the law on residency and membership," Delaronde says.
"One of the problems we've been having is that people, especially on the outside, not understanding that this is not about people not being able to have relationships or marriages with people from elsewhere. All it is, is that you can't live here. You can work here. You can play and you can visit every day."
Terry McComber told CBC News she feels intimidated by the protesters, and fears for the safety of her children.
The protesters say the couple is breaking a law that has been on the books in Kahnawake since 1981. It states that any Mohawk resident who marries or lives with a non-native must move away from Kahnawake.
Nineteen-year-old resident Keisha Goodleaf is among the protesters outside the McComber home.
"Well I am here because I was raised [knowing that] you marry out, you get out. We all knew that. Everyone in town grew up knowing that," Goodleaf says.
She says she is worried about losing native land, language and culture.
Lawsuit pending
Sandy and Barry Stacey moved away from Kahnwake because of its citizenship rules. They are party to the lawsuit before the courts. (CBC)
Seven mixed-race couples, including the McCombers, are taking the band counsel to court over the law, in a case that is not expected to be settled until 2017.
Barry and Sandy Stacey, who moved from Kahnawake when they married, are participating in the lawsuit. They attended the protest in defence of the McCombers and others in their situation.
"It's not right, I feel, because we're all human beings. I married my wife not because of her colour or her race, but because she's a lovely person. She loves me for who I am and I love her for who she is," Barry Stacey says.
Band council spokesman Joe Delaronde says he does not condone the vandalism, but the protesters have a right to demand the law be respected.
"They are asking that people respect the law on residency and membership," Delaronde says.
"One of the problems we've been having is that people, especially on the outside, not understanding that this is not about people not being able to have relationships or marriages with people from elsewhere. All it is, is that you can't live here. You can work here. You can play and you can visit every day."
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Сказки для лохов.
Все ваши параллельные как одна власти подчинены корпорациям, и действуют по их указке.
Видимо канадский паспорт выдают аккурат после операции по ампутации части мозга отвечающей за способность думать.
Только жрать и гадить, ничего больше и ни дай бог начать думать...
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Я больше скажу. Неполучение канадского паспорта вовсе не гарантирует присутствие мозгов.
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В таких случаях, паспорт выдают по ускоренной программе, так канадская система здравоохранения избавляется от необходимости лишний раз стерилизовать инструменты.Я больше скажу. Неполучение канадского паспорта вовсе не гарантирует присутствие мозгов.
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Ускоренной программы нет. Канада демократическая страна. Тут ни у кого нет привилегий. Это вам не Россия.В таких случаях, паспорт выдают по ускоренной программе, так канадская система здравоохранения избавляется от необходимости лишний раз стерилизовать инструменты.Я больше скажу. Неполучение канадского паспорта вовсе не гарантирует присутствие мозгов.
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Отсутствие содержимого в черепе, это уже привилегия?
Надо было попросить хирургов, что бы они хоть что-нибудь оставили.
Глядишь и туалеты бы удавалось находить быстрей.
Или они не спрашивают?
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Судья в Альберте выпустил Омара Кадра под залог, несмотря на мнение федеральных властей:
Omar Khadr's release on bail 'disappointing,' says public safety minister
Steven Blaney says he regrets 'that a convicted terrorist has been allowed back into society'
CBC News Posted: May 07, 2015 9:59 AM MT Last Updated: May 07, 2015 2:47 PM MT
Omar Khadr walks out of Edmonton police headquarters with his lawyer Dennis Edney after a judge granted him bail. (Nate Whitling/Twitter)
Public Safety Minister Steven Blaney says his Conservative government is not happy that Omar Khadr was freed on bail by an Edmonton judge.
Omar Khadr's release on bail 'disappointing,' says public safety minister
Steven Blaney says he regrets 'that a convicted terrorist has been allowed back into society'
CBC News Posted: May 07, 2015 9:59 AM MT Last Updated: May 07, 2015 2:47 PM MT
Omar Khadr walks out of Edmonton police headquarters with his lawyer Dennis Edney after a judge granted him bail. (Nate Whitling/Twitter)
Public Safety Minister Steven Blaney says his Conservative government is not happy that Omar Khadr was freed on bail by an Edmonton judge.
"We are disappointed by the decisions of the court, because we feel that victims should be considered in those decisions," he said from the Dorval airport in Quebec.
"Our thoughts today are going toward Mrs. Tabitha Speer and her two sons, children who have lost their father and we believe for individuals who have pleaded guilty to crimes, should serve their sentence behind bars."
Khadr was accused of throwing a grenade that killed U.S. soldier Christopher Speer in Afghanistan when he was 15 years old. As a teen, he confessed to a military tribunal and was convicted and spent 10 years at the Guantanamo Bay prison in Cuba before being transferred to the Millhaven Institution near Kingston and later to the Bowden Institution near Innisfail, Alta.
Khadr is now free on bail while he appeals his convictions in the United States for war crimes, after Alberta Court of Appeal Justice Myra Bielbyshot down a bid by the Harper government to have him remain behind bars.
Omar Khadr's lawyers, Nate Whitling, left, and Dennis Edney, show their client's release order outside the Edmonton courthouse on Thursday. (CBC)
Bielby said there was no clear evidence that releasing Khadr would cause irreparable harm as the federal government has argued.
Court of Queen's Bench Justice June Ross had granted Khadr bail last month, but the government appealed that decision.
'Mr. Harper is a bigot. Mr. Harper does not like Muslims.'- Denis Edney, Omar Khadr's lawyer
"I look forward to Omar Khadr letting the Canadian public see who he is," said Edmonton lawyer Denis Edney, who represents the 28-year-old.
"Today is a wonderful day for justice, it's a start."
Some in the courtroom to hear the judge's decision Thursday clapped, and others cried, after Bielby announced her decision. Khadr showed no emotion, and stared straight ahead even as his supporters murmured happily to each other while hugging on the benches at the rear of the courtroom.
Immediately after the judge left the courtroom, a grinning Edney rushed over to Khadr, raised his hand above his head and brought it down to clasp Khadr's outstretched hand.
"It's done," he told Khadr.
"I imagine he'll be trying to understand whether this is really true and he will not really believe it until he gets picked up by me," Edney said.
Some risk with release
Bielby said the Crown had established there is some risk involved in releasing Khadr from the Bowden Institution. But she said the deciding factor was who would be harmed more: the public by granting bail, or Khadr by denying it.
Referring to a prison psychologist's assessment, which found Khadr had been a good prisoner, Bielby said there was little chance he would not surrender himself if his appeal failed.
Bielby noted the Crown had not proved there would be harm by releasing Khadr, and she also noted the release was unlikely to cause irreparable harm to diplomatic relations between Canada and the United States.
Bielby also said this case would not set a precedent. She said there is no evidence of another prisoner in Canada in a similar situation.
"The Khadr case, to say the least, is unusual," Bielby said. "There is a first time for everything."
Federal government 'disappointed'
Shortly after the decision to release Khadr was announced, Blaney's office issued a statement.
"We are disappointed with today's decision, and regret that a convicted terrorist has been allowed back into Canadian society without having served his full sentence," the statement read.
"Omar Khadr pleaded guilty to heinous crimes, including the murder of American army medic Sgt. Christopher Speer."
Edney again today criticized the Harper government's handling of the Khadr case challenging the government to show him where he's wrong in his assessment of Khadr.
"My view is very clear," said Edney, "Mr. Harper is a bigot. Mr. Harper does not like Muslims."
When asked for his reaction to Edney's comments, Blaney said: "I think we deserve respect, everyone has their own views."
The U.S, State Department said it won't comment on Khadr's release.
National Muslim council reacts
The National Council of Canadian Muslims (NCCM) was quick to react to the news that Khadr had been released on bail saying his release was "long overdue."
"Today's decision is consistent with the rule of law," said NCCM executive director Ihsaan Gardee.
"We hope that with his release Khadr can begin a new chapter in his life and reintegrate as a positive and contributing member of our society.
"Canadians should be deeply disturbed that the rights of a fellow citizen — even one whose family and name are unpopular — were so callously abused and ignored."
Bail conditions
During the federal government's appeal to block Khadr from getting bail, Bielby heard arguments from his defence lawyers and a federal prosecutor who was seeking an emergency stay of the lower court decision that Khadr be granted bail.
Khadr will have to continue seeing a psychologist and will live with his lawyer, Dennis Edney, under a curfew from 10 p.m. to 7 a.m.
Edney said his wife has been cleaning their home for weeks and has bought clothes for Khadr in anticipation of his arrival.
"She has every intention of giving him a good family meal," he said, adding he's not sure whether Khadr will be spending the night in his home Thursday.
Other bail conditions include:
"Our thoughts today are going toward Mrs. Tabitha Speer and her two sons, children who have lost their father and we believe for individuals who have pleaded guilty to crimes, should serve their sentence behind bars."
Khadr was accused of throwing a grenade that killed U.S. soldier Christopher Speer in Afghanistan when he was 15 years old. As a teen, he confessed to a military tribunal and was convicted and spent 10 years at the Guantanamo Bay prison in Cuba before being transferred to the Millhaven Institution near Kingston and later to the Bowden Institution near Innisfail, Alta.
Khadr is now free on bail while he appeals his convictions in the United States for war crimes, after Alberta Court of Appeal Justice Myra Bielbyshot down a bid by the Harper government to have him remain behind bars.
Omar Khadr's lawyers, Nate Whitling, left, and Dennis Edney, show their client's release order outside the Edmonton courthouse on Thursday. (CBC)
Bielby said there was no clear evidence that releasing Khadr would cause irreparable harm as the federal government has argued.
Court of Queen's Bench Justice June Ross had granted Khadr bail last month, but the government appealed that decision.
'Mr. Harper is a bigot. Mr. Harper does not like Muslims.'- Denis Edney, Omar Khadr's lawyer
"I look forward to Omar Khadr letting the Canadian public see who he is," said Edmonton lawyer Denis Edney, who represents the 28-year-old.
"Today is a wonderful day for justice, it's a start."
Some in the courtroom to hear the judge's decision Thursday clapped, and others cried, after Bielby announced her decision. Khadr showed no emotion, and stared straight ahead even as his supporters murmured happily to each other while hugging on the benches at the rear of the courtroom.
Immediately after the judge left the courtroom, a grinning Edney rushed over to Khadr, raised his hand above his head and brought it down to clasp Khadr's outstretched hand.
"It's done," he told Khadr.
"I imagine he'll be trying to understand whether this is really true and he will not really believe it until he gets picked up by me," Edney said.
Some risk with release
Bielby said the Crown had established there is some risk involved in releasing Khadr from the Bowden Institution. But she said the deciding factor was who would be harmed more: the public by granting bail, or Khadr by denying it.
Referring to a prison psychologist's assessment, which found Khadr had been a good prisoner, Bielby said there was little chance he would not surrender himself if his appeal failed.
Bielby noted the Crown had not proved there would be harm by releasing Khadr, and she also noted the release was unlikely to cause irreparable harm to diplomatic relations between Canada and the United States.
Bielby also said this case would not set a precedent. She said there is no evidence of another prisoner in Canada in a similar situation.
"The Khadr case, to say the least, is unusual," Bielby said. "There is a first time for everything."
Federal government 'disappointed'
Shortly after the decision to release Khadr was announced, Blaney's office issued a statement.
"We are disappointed with today's decision, and regret that a convicted terrorist has been allowed back into Canadian society without having served his full sentence," the statement read.
"Omar Khadr pleaded guilty to heinous crimes, including the murder of American army medic Sgt. Christopher Speer."
Edney again today criticized the Harper government's handling of the Khadr case challenging the government to show him where he's wrong in his assessment of Khadr.
"My view is very clear," said Edney, "Mr. Harper is a bigot. Mr. Harper does not like Muslims."
When asked for his reaction to Edney's comments, Blaney said: "I think we deserve respect, everyone has their own views."
The U.S, State Department said it won't comment on Khadr's release.
National Muslim council reacts
The National Council of Canadian Muslims (NCCM) was quick to react to the news that Khadr had been released on bail saying his release was "long overdue."
"Today's decision is consistent with the rule of law," said NCCM executive director Ihsaan Gardee.
"We hope that with his release Khadr can begin a new chapter in his life and reintegrate as a positive and contributing member of our society.
"Canadians should be deeply disturbed that the rights of a fellow citizen — even one whose family and name are unpopular — were so callously abused and ignored."
Bail conditions
During the federal government's appeal to block Khadr from getting bail, Bielby heard arguments from his defence lawyers and a federal prosecutor who was seeking an emergency stay of the lower court decision that Khadr be granted bail.
Khadr will have to continue seeing a psychologist and will live with his lawyer, Dennis Edney, under a curfew from 10 p.m. to 7 a.m.
Edney said his wife has been cleaning their home for weeks and has bought clothes for Khadr in anticipation of his arrival.
"She has every intention of giving him a good family meal," he said, adding he's not sure whether Khadr will be spending the night in his home Thursday.
Other bail conditions include:
- Interaction with his own family can only be made by telephone or video conference, and the conversations will have to be in English and be supervised.
- Any face-to-face visits with his family can only happen with prior written approval from a supervisor.
- Khadr is also prohibited from any communication with members of a terrorist group. He cannot apply for a passport, and his internet access will be limited and monitored.
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Он всё ещё жив. Канадский пасечник, который заживо сжёг Хатынь
Его зовут Владимир Катрюк; когда-то, давным-давно, он вместе со своими товарищами по 118-му украинскому полицейскому батальону поработал в Белоруссии, в знаменитом впоследствии селении под названием Хатынь.
СКР возбудил дело против Владимира Катрюка, участвовавшего в убийствах жителей Хатыни во время ВОВ
http://russian.rt.com/article/90461
Его зовут Владимир Катрюк; когда-то, давным-давно, он вместе со своими товарищами по 118-му украинскому полицейскому батальону поработал в Белоруссии, в знаменитом впоследствии селении под названием Хатынь.
СКР возбудил дело против Владимира Катрюка, участвовавшего в убийствах жителей Хатыни во время ВОВ
http://russian.rt.com/article/90461
